SummaryDiscussing how policies to combat homelessness further marginalize unhoused people.
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As I mentioned before, we're talking
about homelessness, unhoused people.
And starting with the fact that 47
states in the district of Columbia
have at least one law that restricts
acts like panhandling or standing
in roadways building encampments
number of activities that unhoused
people rely on just for survival.
So I'm going to start bringing up the
all girl band and we are going to get.
Into this discussion.
First, I'm going to bring up Athena Fulay.
Athena: Hi, Mel.
Hi, everybody how's it going.
Melanie: going great.
How are you?
Ready to get into it today?
Happy to be back this week and
learn a little bit more about how
different states are treated in the
own house and what we can do about it.
Melanie: Welcome back.
Thank you so much.
And we also have blogger
extraordinary Susan Stutz
Susan: Hello ladies.
Susan: Happy Sunday.
Melanie: happy Sunday.
I looked short compared to y'all.
Athena: It's all about a camera tilt.
Melanie: Right, right.
So, Susan, we're going to be talking.
A about what different states are doing.
And B we have a few petitions that
we'll be getting into, and then
what new petitions can look like.
So we'll be talking about that as well.
I think the first thing, when we start,
when we think about humane treatment,
when we think about policies that
have human interests, Typically this
conversation goes more or less with
one side or another, having the blame
on the issue on an issue, right?
This is something that is not at all.
Partisan Susan, live in a state,
that's not necessarily a blue state
for it is decidedly, a red state.
I live in a red state as well.
I don't necessarily see
that many policies here.
Not that they don't have them, but when
we look at that, it seems to be something
that's not only a partisan issue.
Do you see much difference
in, in Florida where you are,
which is also very tourists.
Susan: You know, I know
that we have some panhandle.
Rules laws, it used to be that there were
a lot of people at our highway exchanges
and our intersections in our bigger cities
more towards south Florida, but, you
know, I don't see it very much anymore.
And I know that there, you know, you
get into the bigger cities and there's
definitely more unhoused people.
It's a bigger concern
in the bigger cities.
I don't see it a lot where I'm
at presently, although it, it
absolutely does exist, but it does.
At least the places that I go, the
things that I see I don't see a lot
of it and I don't see encampments and
things like that, that I know that we
have in bigger cities and bigger states.
Melanie: And I think that's, I think one
of the issues that I've been reading up
on is when we start dealing with those.
Those places tend to a skew, a
little more liberal, and B people
consider those opportunities to
be greater when they're unhoused.
I am sorry.
Aria is back here going ham.
She is not loving anything.
She wants to be in show business today.
I'm in new Orleans.
And we definitely there's a, there
are a lot of unhoused people here.
there are encampment sites at various
parts and at various places in the
city aids, very coming and going.
We have a lot of a tourist
entertainers, you name it.
So that means that there's a lot
more likelihood, for people who try.
Make a living out here and just, and just,
don't when we look at, when we look at
the actual policies and every, and pretty
much everywhere, like I said, 47 states
and NBC have these policies, but the,
especially in recent months, one of the
biggest voices or one of the biggest folks
on display has been in New York city.
Mayor Eric Adams has done a lot,
has done a lot to say that he wants
to reduce I'm sorry, written New
York city of the homeless problem,
but his tactic has more been geared
toward attacking unhoused people.
We seen a lot of the, we've seen in the
news, the encampments being torn down the
sweeps and the subway, things like that.
I would like Athena to kind of get
your thoughts a bit on what that
looks like for you in DC., how
government has been addressing.
Homelessness and unhoused people
in DC and where you think some of
those cracks are in the process.
So I think DC is unique
for a lot of reasons.
One it's not a state too.
It's funding is usually very closely tied.
Anything the city wants to
spend their money on needs
congressional approval for it.
But I have to say as far as.
And the populations that are
unhoused in Washington DC are vast.
I think given the size of what the city
actually is versus the number of people
who are and at the moment is pretty large.
However, I do have some good news in that.
There's a Homeward DC plan that the
mayor's office does that Comes at
this issue from a variety of options.
One is eviction moratorium, and
not allowing that supporting the
number of shelters around the city.
Now again when you're talking about
homelessness, it's more than just there's
a very, there's easy black and white way
of looking at it and saying these people
are just not, do not have housing for
whatever reasons, economic health or.
Whatever issues they might be having,
but DC looks at it from several angles,
which has allowed it to actually have,
I have some statistics that were just
shared to me this week, actually,
that the housing homelessness in DC
has dropped by 13.7% across the city.
There is something called an annual
point in time survey that a lot
of people working in this field.
Do a census, basically, of those
experiencing homelessness across their
regions and DC had a as far as single
adult homelessness is concerned,
not families or anything like that.
There's been a 22% percent
decrease in single adults.
So how has this happening?
A lot of it is again, sort of, if there's
never really one quick answer, I, I
know that there was a story in Utah
where they just built homes for the.
People experiencing homelessness and that
drastically cut that and we're able to
support them, uplift them out of that.
So that's definitely one way
resources allocated that way.
But so this is looking at it from a
little bit more of a holistic viewpoint.
We're trying to make sure that their
experiences and re-entry are positive.
They get collaborative assistance to
these agencies that are working with
people experiencing chronic homelessness.
is six months onwards.
But what I think also makes DC unique
is this idea that veterans affairs is
here in Washington, DC, not to say that
veterans affairs isn't around the U S
but I feel so many of the stories of our
friends experiencing homelessness are
I've come here to claim what to do to me.
I have come here seeking assistance, or
I have come to the DC area to seek out
What was owed to me given my, my time
in the service or what I feel was due.
So I, in my experience in, in street,
greetings is there's a significant,
I'm also happened to be in the
foggy bottom area, happens to be a
tremendous amount who are veterans.
And if people take the time to have
conversations with these folks, we'll
quickly realize how much closer any
of us really are to homelessness
versus launching ourselves up into
space to explore the stratosphere,
because th these, these folks are not
some definitely are struggling with
mental, chronic mental illness and
down in their luck, as they would say.
But a lot of this is a
manifestation of systemic.
oppression by our systems.
So, yes, I think DC, I, when you read
about the homelessness and tips and
suggestions on how to work with them,
a lot of the recommendations you'll see
are people saying move to more liberal
cities, move to cities where, you know,
the resources are available to, help
and support people coming out of that.
and so DC, I think not just that in a
good way, but It's never going to be
enough, but it is a relatively decent
success story on our end here in DC.
Melanie: Thanks so much.
And that's the thing let's I'm glad
you mentioned that because I'd like to
talk a little bit about the breakdown
of what homelessness looks like.
Like who's, who's out there, you
mentioned veterans and that's roughly
about 11% of the homeless population.
When you look at from the.
Perspective of physical ability,
40%, 40 over 40% of unhoused.
People are also disabled.
And then when you, when you not only look
at that statistic of them being disabled,
but then you have to start dealing with.
What does receiving
services look like for them?
What does it look like if they get to a
shelter and that shelter isn't accessible?
I talked to our friend Melissa Thompson
cause I'm always loving her input and
she has done some work on a report with
the, uh, with the century foundation.
But one of the things that
she said to me, or one of the
things that she actually said.
Was that a disabled black and
Latin X renters were especially
likely to be housing insecure.
And that's roughly at 50
52 and 50% respectively.
And she went on to say that the
significant unemployment and
underemployment rates of dis of
disabled people in comparison to their
non-disabled counterparts, especially.
Of color as well as a host of
other factors contribute to
houselessness of disabled people.
And it goes on ignored and
unnoticed in these discussions.
One of the reasons it's so easy to
push past this problem is because
we're pushing past the people
who in other ways get ignored.
Anyway, when we're dealing with
people of color, when we're dealing
with people who have mental illness
when we're queer youth, 20 to
40% of queer youth are homeless.
And if you just look at New York
city, the average age for gay and
lesbian youth, 14.4 years old, the
average age for trans youth, 13.5.
So when you go back to incontinence
being destroyed, when you go back to
people being rousted on the subway, when
you go back to people being rounded up,
some of these people are children who
need other services who need educational
services, who need family services.
They are being forced into more times
than not more difficult situations.
I mean that nothing,
everything is connected, right?
when you look at unhoused youth, then
you have to look at sex trafficking.
It's just one thing after another,
and we're not dealing with the issue.
And when we're talking about liberal
areas in liberal cities, It's
absolutely the place where we're
more likely to find aid and programs.
But one of the things that I've been
reading on the New York times had a very
interesting, video about the role that
blue states and blue cities play in.
The wealth gap in the housing crisis.
So when we start talking about being
housing insecure, when we start talking
about homelessness, as much as we want
to, you know, point fingers, Tennessee
just made this bill, that's basically
a poor tax where you for panhandling
and encampments, a $50 fine, and
you have to do community service.
I mean, it's free labor.
You're exploiting unhoused
people for free labor, and there's
no other way to look at that.
But when we start talking about who's
really enforcing these policies, even when
there are Democrats in, who are basically
controlling policy in these states,
there are still issues where are still.
California is a huge example of
these quality of life policies that
absolutely criminalize homelessness.
There's no other way about it.
These are the places that have what
they call, um, hostile construction,
where there are spikes on the ground
so that people can't sit there.
There are gaps in awnings so that you
can't be sheltered from the rain or the.
We just had earth day unhoused people
are the first people to be impacted
by to be impacted by climate change.
When we look at how there's been, there's
noted, increase in heat stroke there's
and none of these things, these aren't
the things that are being addressed.
There are so many.
Issues and solutions that are being
leapfrogged over in favor of fines,
service, throwing things away.
I wanted to talk a bit about
who's doing the work though.
Cause you mentioned some about DC, Athena.
Uh, you mentioned in.
There's also we've talked about
New York and there's a project
hospitality with Reverend Troy.
Who's doing amazing work in Staten island.
I'm here in new Orleans.
You you've heard me talk a fair bit
about Allen Keller and the work that
he's doing with tailgate together as
tactile the tailgate together, who, one
of the reasons that it's been difficult
to schedule him is because on every
Sunday, every Sunday, he's out feeding
on house people and things like that.
So I wanted to.
When, when we talk about how terrible
things are, I like to talk a little
bit about the things that you've
seen that have worked, or anyone
that you want to put a spotlight on.
Who's doing the work, especially
in helping unhoused or people
who are housing insecure.
Athena: Sure I'm in DC.
There are again, we're pretty fortunate.
There's a lot of infrastructure for this.
I know some crews who go out on Friday
nights and the tent cities and the DC
and the city specifically are very,
are getting more and more organized.
So they have welcome tables.
Now people are giving them
food throughout the week.
So I think we've come to a point in DC
where we're seeing that it's not just a
matter of, a feeding and charity, right?
If we want to be serious about
getting folks off the streets ending
chronic homelessness, providing the
safeguards and buttressing support
net so that they need to be able to
climb out of it and stay out of it.
A lot more needs to be done.
And those are sort of the questions
that I think your average person would
be more than happy to bring a sandwich
to somebody on a corner, but to have a
real meaningful conversation about what
it means to create legislation that
makes us a more livable city for every
economic bracket, uh, things like that.
Need to happen.
So organizations that I would
absolutely like to do shout outs and
supports to Mariam's kitchen here
in Washington, DC, a bread for the
city, also a great organization.
The Georgetown ministry center is an
organization that I work closely with.
They have a day shelter in Georgetown,
as you imagine, Georgetown is a
very affluent part of Washington
DC, but given how the homeless.
Are all over the city that this
is a coalition of congregations
and faith based groups that have
supported the functioning of this.
They shelter that has moved, I think
since November close to over 80 people
from the streets into permanent housing.
yes, Miriam's kitchen has been feeding
the on housing, the DC area for
decades as well and are fantastic.
And they're also building
that sense of community.
I know I talk about this a lot, but it
really does take a village and having
community and support systems in place.
Not only one helped through
that process of becoming, going
from one house to being housed.
Getting people access to continued
support throughout their transitions
and just providing that community and
safe space support and confidence to
to maintain to maintain the economic
security that they need to stay housed.
So, those are just quickly three
and one more in New York city.
And here in Washington, DC, there's
this group called the community of
centered video that do provide in
New York large-scale meals out of
Penn station, but in Washington,
DC, it's based out of foggy bottom.
And it's more of a, sort of a
friendship conversation week.
Build relationships and friendships
with the unhoused to see what they need.
Because again, we'll show up with pasta
and that's great, but oftentimes they'll
say we'll have eaten already, or we can't
keep that overnight because it's going to
get hot and rats are going to get to it.
But again, fostering that conversation,
knowing when their birthdays are, when
is the last time people have greeted
these people happy birthday, or just
again, establishing that dignity.
That should be afforded to all people.
I think is absolutely lacking
in this larger conversation.
I feel what cities can do, what cities
can do is get rid of fossil architecture.
You're right now, this idea of public
spaces, no longer being public and
public spaces by the nature of being
public should be a place for everybody.
By putting armrests, having a bench,
but putting our armors there is
basically saying no one's allowed
to lay down here or having those
spikes so that it also discourages
people from loitering or sitting.
Yes, there's, there's a lot of terrible
here, but I would probably say of course,
house and feed them as this is the very
first thing priority of what you need to
do, but there is a larger conversation
that needs to happen about acknowledging
the inherent dignity and humanness of
When we talk about the war on
homelessness, it's absolutely what
we're looking at right now, as it's
being conducted a war on, on house
people, and that's just not acceptable.
One of the key things that.
Eric Adams brought up, he, he brought
up how well, this is undignified.
I seen this and this is undignified.
But these are still people.
These, how, how much dignity do we
afford poor people, because I mean,
it's starting with homelessness,
but then it extends when you think
that I'm in new Orleans rather than.
After Katrina, they tore out a
lot of the housing developments
the word was, well, this wasn't
supposed to be permanent housing.
This is not supposed to be permanent,
but how much money do you have to have
before you get to feel a sense of home?
Like what entitles you to a sense of.
Belonging in home and just your own space.
So it's, it's always going to be,
there's always going to be a caveat
when it comes down to having a sense
of ownership, empowerment, dignity,
there's always a dollar figure on it.
That's just the, that's
just the prevailing.
Wisdom right now, when we look at again,
have to go back because we think so much
in terms of red blue, but this is a purple
problem because it happens everywhere.
Like we have to, if we're going
to bring people in the room.
Bring Texas in bring Florida
into the conversation.
But if we're talking about the wealth
gap, if we're talking about homelessness,
we got to say hello to California.
We have to say hello to Illinois.
We have to say hello to Washington state.
I believe it was Washington
state that had the opportunity.
There was a, housing issue.
And when it came down to actually getting
my, brain, cause I can't remember if
it's Washington or California right
now, but there were making changes.
Or attempting to make, how does zoning
changes so that single family and an area
zoned for single family homes could be
for large density populations and, a bunch
of nice rich liberals said no, because
they don't want it near their homes.
When we look at even education, which
is a, a key factor into pulling people
out of five, amount of money that
your school gets is determined by how
much the houses are in your district.
And then the rig is rigged.
So there's there, there has to be, it
has to be more than just us looking at.
What party is doing what, and it has to
get down to what we are doing as people.
What are we doing to, to
our neighbors and house?
People are still our neighbors.
They're still parts of our community.
I grew up, I had to go across
town to school and there
were five men that I knew.
There are five men that you, if you put
a picture of them, You know that you were
on canal street in, in 1992, because those
men are part we're part of our community.
And we have to look at them like that.
and that means calling on more,
not only of ourselves, but
also of our representatives.
And that takes us to some petitions.
Susan, do you mind reading off
some of the petitions that we have.
I feel like we, me and
Athena have been going at it.
So we would like to hear your
lovely voice and you can talk
to us about the petitions.
Susan: It's 100%.
Because obviously, you
both are very educated.
I appreciate the education
for myself a lot.
So we have two petitions that we're
focusing on and one of them, it the
title to it is shelter is a human, right.
We shouldn't have to say that.
We shouldn't have to say that I have
a right to have a roof over my head.
It should just be a given.
And so again, that's the
title of the position?
The call sign is P as in Peter and
as in Nancy, P as in Peter, S as
in Susan X and then Q as in quiet.
And so what we're doing is looking at the
author of this individual by the name of.
Pointing out that, every eviction
and the opening line, I love it.
Every eviction is a richer person
using the government to force a
poor person into homelessness in
order to make a greater profit.
I find so much truth in
just that one sentence.
If you send that call signed to five,
zero four, zero nine, you can sign onto
that petition and you can send it to your
governor, and your state legislature.
The second one that we have is
entitled fund homelessness prevention.
And again, this speaks to.
This lack of community services that would
go such a long way to resolving, or at
least mitigating some of the challenges
that the unhoused face and that led them
to being unhoused in the first place.
So that call sign is P as in Peter,
J as in jelly, L as in Larry,
O G as in good F as in family.
And again, type that into 5, 0 4 0 9.
And you can send that to, again,
your governor and your legislatures.
If neither one of these petitions strikes
a chord with you or says what it is
that's in your heart to say by all means.
Send mayor send states and
governor to Pfizer, 0 4, 0 9.
You can write your own letter,
which you can then turn into a
petition that you can then invite
friends and families to sign on to.
So those are the two petitions
we're highlighting for today.
Melanie: Thanks so much.
Absolutely because there's those
petitions are great, but we don't
currently have anything that talks
about things like hostile architecture.
We don't have anything really
addressing these more recent policies
that are, or the growing poor tax.
I mean, we can't, I don't see any
other term that we could use for this
because you're literally criminalizing.
Poor people for surviving there's no.
And watching it being defended,
well, it's only a $50 fine.
Susan: I was just going to say, one of
the things that I find so difficult is
this T this issue, like so many others,
we place the blame on the individual
who has the challenge to begin with.
We place the blame on the unhoused.
We, I had not thought about the word home.
And the negative connotation that
goes along with it the vitriol
that goes along with that one word.
And I had not thought about that until
you Mel educated me on the word unhoused.
And then the more I read about it.
The more I saw, you know, if, if
the same people who are advocating
for these policies and these poor
taxes use their powers for good.
So to speak, look at the money you
spend on the architecture, look at
the money you spend on enacting,
putting into place these laws.
When, what we need is that money to be in
services for our communities and services
in our local communities, help mitigate
so many of the challenges that lead to
homelessness in the first place, the
mental health issues that go untreated.
And if they're diagnosed, they're
untreated or they're just not
diagnosed at all, we don't have
any mental health facilities
really that people can show up to.
I mean, speckled here and there, but if we
turned that attention, To what we can do
to help as opposed to placing the blame on
them and expecting them, you know, the old
bootstrap theory, which frankly is crap.
If you ask me but you know, if you
would just grab your bootstraps
and pull yourself up, then all
of your problems will be solved.
Well, it just doesn't work that way.
And we can't lay the problem of
the unhoused at their feet and
not provide answers and resources.
It just, we just, as a human.
As humanity, we just
shouldn't be doing that
Melanie: Yeah, bootstraps don't
work when you don't have boots.
Melanie: it's not, a logical.
Expectation for the people who don't have.
And then we look at city governments
that do have budgets to, address
the needs of people without homes.
so compared to the police budget,
New York city's budget for the
department of homeless services is.
Relatively small and, was cut
by $615 million this year.
But it's still something about something
around 2.1 billion, and that makes
it roughly 50, a little over 50.
I think it's 58,000 per person.
When we look at the homeless
population, so $58,000 per person is.
how the budget breaks down.
And of course that won't
all go to an individual.
But when you look at, when we,
when you look at that, you have
to ask, where are the funds going?
if there's absolutely money available
for the 65,000 homeless residents,
but we'll just stick with New York,
the 65,000 homeless residents of.
Where is it going?
What is being done?
Is it being used wisely?
And we have to look at that.
We can look at that in, in varying
points of city, government in any city
in the country, but we have to look
at if the budget is being cut, there's
still logically should be enough
money to support these residents.
What's being done.
What is the end game since it's clearly
not to actually help unhoused people
and there are cities who
are beginning to get it.
I think Athena, you had some information
on that on one city who has been answering
the call to help on house people.
Athena: I do.
And I give Texas a lot of grief,
but I have to say that Houston,
however, has some successes to share.
Within the last decade, they've actually
cut their on house populations down
by over 50%, which is truly amazing.
They are very organized about it.
The coalition for homelessness has
been around since the 1980s and
they've approximately three 30,000
people across Harris, Fort bend and
Montgomery counties have access some
of the services that they provide from
clothing or food or food assistance.
Some lessons to be learned from that
there was an op-ed in the LA times
because everybody likes to tell
Californians what to do, especially
when they're doing things well.
But what can Houston teach Los Angeles
about solving homelessness or some
other cities that are experiencing this?
So around the same time that Houston
really got motivated in addressing their.
This was, uh, also happening
in San Diego and they both took
different approaches to things.
And what I think has.
Houston more success in it that the
articles that I'm quoting from the LA
times basically breaks it down first,
basically their scale of effort.
They've th their focus has been almost
laser-focused on providing affordable
permanent housing units, much more of
course, including health and social
services to that, but it really is
the development of permanent housing
to to facilitate that transition.
Second they're very well organized.
they also have a sense of pragmatism.
I think even in our own conversations
today, we've been talking about
dignity and like their worth and the
compassion piece of that, which is
absolutely critical and important.
Not that they haven't done that,
but they have been really making
the key strategy about home.
Defining homelessness is something
that needs to be rare, brief.
And non-recurring so they commissioned,
they decommissioned eight hopeless
homeless encampments in the last year
with pathways to permanent housing.
So about 80 to 90% of homeless people have
taken them up on that offer in Houston.
So, yes I, while I tend to lean on
the, like, we need to talk to them
to hear what their needs are in
the case of what Houston is doing.
They have a clear sense of the data,
driving their reasons for doing things.
And it really leaves a lot of that
compassion rightfully so to, non-profits
churches to be in charge of shelters
and sort of temporary housing.
The city is focusing all of its
efforts and resources specifically on.
The providing of more
permanent affordable housing.
just lastly, in comparison to why
they feel that this article, at
least is saying that Los Angeles is
missing the mark on this is because
nobody is in charge and LA is, is.
It's a massive urban sprawl as a
season, but again, this idea that the
laser focus with which the coalition
in Houston has been able to dedicate,
a decades worth of energy and focus
on it is something that they're hoping
to inspire Los Angeles to do as well.
Melanie: And there are just some places.
I think that feel as though they have a
certain amount of humanitarian credit.
So there are things that they could
just take their time on people
having homes should not be one of
them, especially when we look at
how many vacant homes there are, The
housing crisis is beyond anything.
I think any of us have seen
before, especially when we look
at the fact that a lot of these
homes are not owned by people.
Like a lot of homes now are
owned by corporations, not always
corporations in this country.
There's a very large Company
in Canada that owns just an
obscene amount of homes here.
it all boils down to will always
will down to profits over people.
Whenever we dig into any of these
issues, it's all, we're always going
to be looking at how people have
gotten the shaft because of a dollar.
And I don't think there's
any nice way to put that.
So one of the things, I just want
to reiterate that while we do have
open letters, there is so much green
space that we have to cover when
it comes down to unhoused people.
And this is where we
call out to all of you.
Melanie: Hostile architecture.
A hassle architecture what's
being done with, for taxes and
The bill in Tennessee, that was the
most recent that came out this week.
Uh, the bill in Tennessee it's
HBS 0 9, 7 8, and SB 1 6 1 0.
These are these.
Definitive things that, you can take aim
at, let your representatives know what
you think about policies like this and
what you want done to, to combat this
problem in your own backyard, because
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This is not a somebody else problem.
It's a societal problem.
And with that means, you know, at the
end of brought it up before it takes a
village and it absolutely takes a village.
Find your village do not
underestimate the importance of.
Finding your people and
asking the right questions.
I remember moving to moving up north.
I'm from new Orleans.
Everything is north for me, but I
remember moving up north in 2005, right?
When these kinds of hostile
architecture moves were taking shape
and just sitting down at a bench
and realizing there were things.
On two sides of me and thinking,
well, this is dominant tourist city.
And then I realized, no, it's not Dom.
This is what my mama would call having
ugly ways, because you don't want
somebody to lay out on the bench.
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it's really that, that easy.
And that's, that's kind of where we are.
I want to give you guys a chance to
shout out and, Take us out of here.
. Susan, where can we find you?
What are you looking at
outside of this cluster
what other things are
you looking at this week?
What has your eye and tell
the people when they can.
Susan: I'm on Twitter at twin thing too.
The two is T O O because I'm an
identical twin, so I'm an also
and one of the things, Obviously
the elections are coming.
So we're ramping up, get out
the vote efforts here in Florida
and on the treasure coast.
And I just can't, say it enough times or
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Take a look at our keyword list.
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So that, and I just wanted to give a
shout out to one of the organizations
that is in my neck of the woods.
That's really working on the unhoused
issue and it's a place called LA.
And it's that stands for
love and hope in action.
And it's a place where you
can go and get a clean shower.
You can take a nap, you can get some food.
They have a wonderful
place in Stuart, Florida.
So I just want to give them a shout out.
They're doing great work and if you can
support them, please do money time at all.
Melanie: Thanks so much, Susan, and
that's, I'm glad you mentioned that
because one of the things, when we
look at How difficult it can be for
people to transition, rather from
living on the street to housing.
If unhoused people do not want to utilize
the services that you have, that needs to
be interrogated, where are the shortfalls?
What needs are you not meeting?
Because that is not that's a.
That's a failure on a
So thank you so much for pointing
that out, Susan and Athena.
Can you shout out some folks and let
us know what, where the people can.
Athena: Sure I am still on
the Twitters at am fillet.
As for things I have my eye on Susan
mentioned it, the elections are coming
up or an hatch Fest away from Utah.
Not that that's a flippable seat or
anything like that, but I think it's
important for us to start getting our
eyes on what's on key states, as well as.
Offices that are going to be
essential in the coming election.
I am also working with some folks
over here in DC that we've hosted
on the show before with Jennifer
and Musey and sanctuary DMV.
We're getting truckloads of.
Asylum seekers from
Texas here in Washington.
So it's been an interesting time to
actually demonstrate what solidarity
with migrants could really look like.
So I would encourage all of you to
also plug into the networks of folks,
working with migrants and refugees
to see what can be done, whether
that's buying some t-shirts for some
kids coming into your cities, picking
up some toiletries, or just adding
to their Venmo PayPal supplies.
We're ending the Easter octane for
the Christian world and the Orthodox
worlds are celebrating Easter today.
But everybody could need, some can use
some love and assistance the spring.
So seek out those places
and do what you can.
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